Debate With A Protestant Part 2.

In a recent debate with a Protestant Christian, I brought up the 11 year old girl dying because her family decided to pray for her instead of give her the necessary medicine needed to safe her life. Below is the ensuing debate that followed:

Prot: God gave us medicine and medical care to help us as well. Prayer works don't get me wrong but there isn't anything wrong or anything ungodly about getting the correct medical care.

Sorry but people aren't perfect, and people make mistakes and I find it funny how people use incidents like these to not believe in God but with all the medicines that are taken off the market (like the anti depressants that make you MORE depressed) and all the medicines that cause all these deadly side effects they sure don't lose faith in medical care.

Sin: We don't use silly arguments to not believe in God. We use arguments like this to show others how utterly retarded theists can be when they take a 2000 year old book literally.

Prot: So why don't you do the same with medical science? That's had plenty of errors and deaths and deformations etc. etc. etc.

Sin: I do. However, there aren't millions of medical scientist running around saying, "You have to take this medicine or you will burn in hell!"

Prot: But at any given time there are (not a million) probably thousands of medical scientists running around saying TAKE MEDICINE X for ILLENSS(Sic) Y OR YOU WILL DIE! Not exactly identical but you get the picture right?

Sin: And in most cases, medicine "X" is needed. In zero cases is anyone going to burn in eternal damnation.

Prot: Really in most cases? Is that why medicines are taken off the market? Because they're needed? But those errors are acceptable, right?

Sin: You're talking about a fraction of the medicines that are on the market, and those medicines are removed accordingly.

Hence: Christianity should be removed accordingly. It's a bad medicine.

Protestant Logic

Below is an excerpt from a debate I was participating in with a Protestant Christian.

Prot: God created the universe from nothing. Thats what Ive been saying.

Sin: Why does the universe need a creator when God doesn't?

Prot: Because the universe was CREATED by God.

Sin: If God can exists without a creator then why can't the universe?

Prot: Because the universe was CREATED.

Sin: ...

Prot: The universe needs a creator because it was created. How hard is that? The universe can't exist without a creator because it was created.

You have to admire the circular logic.

...On Pride

One can only swallow it so many times before falling victim to asphyxiation.

...On Morality

What is good? What is bad? What is right? What is wrong?

Trifles best left to theologians and philosophers to discuss.

...On Marriage, Again

...to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.

One has trouble imagining anything more dishonest, not to mention despicable, than this promise.

Beating A Dead Horse...

The Bible shows God engaging in acts, that, if a man were to engage in, would be considered at minimum, sinful in nature.

Yet -- The Bible then states to emulate, and, "..Be perfect, as the Father in heaven is perfect."

Clearly, that doesn't make any sense.

Question:
How can one be perfect as God is and manage to avoid sin at the same time -- Since, by mimicking Gods acts, one would, ipso-facto, condemn oneself based on Gods own laws?

...On Marriage

I have made the conscience choice not to marry because I have never met a woman that I could have meaningful conversation with for the rest of my life.

Atheism Or Agnosticism?

a·the·ist /ˈeɪθiɪst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ey-thee-ist] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

ag·nos·tic /ægˈnɒstɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ag-nos-tik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience.
4. asserting the uncertainty of all claims to knowledge.

Definitively, I'm an agnostic. Since I'm neither convinced by A-Priori or synthetic metaphysical arguments for the existence of God, nor by the evidence educed from the physical world around us, nor by the claims made by various positive religions -- I cannot affirm the proposition, "There Is A God." This in no way implies an affirmation of the proposition, "There is no God." The means of verification seem to be unavailable to the human mind for either proposition. Therefore, I stand in a state of suspended judgement on the matter.